Curse

Shayne Hawke · Apr 08, 2008, 01:30 AM // 01:30

Escape

Proposed change: For 1...7 seconds, you move 33% faster and have a 75% chance to block attacks. Escape ends if you attack.

Reasoning: It looks very ripe for a nerf right now, and I'd rather have it kill this than this.

street peddler · Apr 08, 2008, 01:31 AM // 01:31

pious assault

Shayne Hawke · Apr 08, 2008, 01:33 AM // 01:33

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Originally Posted by street peddler

pious assault

To be honest, my only SWAY experience is playing trapper, and I hardly got hit by other SWAYers.

If that's the real issue, I'm fine with Escape staying as it is.

street peddler · Apr 08, 2008, 01:43 AM // 01:43

make pious assult require an enchantment to be removed to apply the dw imo

Killed u man · Apr 08, 2008, 01:51 AM // 01:51

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Originally Posted by street peddler

make pious assult require an enchantment to be removed to apply the dw imo

One of the necro's can easily go OoV, OoP or OoA...

blakecraw · Apr 08, 2008, 02:24 AM // 02:24

/signed

to "escape" implies running away, not smashing the crap out of stuff with a farming implement

Master Ketsu · Apr 08, 2008, 03:06 AM // 03:06

Wow how retarded. So make it an elite that is worse then the non elite natural stride ? Escape is nowhere near problematic.

Maybe if you actually looked at R/D way you would realize that they only deal decent damage when you try to kite them due to crits. Other then that, the damage is feeble. The only problem with R/D way is that pious does not require an enchantment for the deep wound. If you think Escape is the problem behind that build, you fail @ game balance.

Stop crying for nerfs on whatever happens to be the meta. Cry for nerfs when it's actually overpowered.

If you keep nerfing the current meta you end up with worthless skills in the next meta.

HawkofStorms · Apr 08, 2008, 04:12 AM // 04:12

/notsigned
Escape isn't that good anyways. Its in the SWAY meta just because the R/Ds don't have any better elite options (no dervish skills besides sycle mastery, and those all apply deep wound, defeating the purpose of pious).

It's A Me · Apr 08, 2008, 07:03 AM // 07:03

/notsigned
Never been a problem until R/D and even though im no HA expert ive played enough to realise that Sway is not overpowered and can be steamrolled pretty easy.

the Puppeteer · Apr 08, 2008, 07:05 AM // 07:05

omg I got owned by R/Ds too - lets nerf em

RyXXed · Apr 08, 2008, 07:05 AM // 07:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

Escape

Proposed change: For 1...12 seconds, you move 33% faster and have a 75% chance to block attacks. Escape ends if you attack.

Reasoning: It looks very ripe for a nerf right now, and I'd rather have it kill this than this.

Fix`d.

This should be a lot better.

Bront · Apr 08, 2008, 07:24 AM // 07:24

I point you to Natural Stride

Almost identical skill, just 50% block rate instead of 75%.

Escape is an Elite, and looks fine. Natural Stride looks maybe a little cheep compared to other skills that either only run or only block.

The Red Messenger · Apr 08, 2008, 07:30 AM // 07:30

What about the rangers that use bows?

sometimes you gotta use pindown and still escape...

ranger already suffered enough nerfage with sundering/penetraging shot, power shot, and precision shot anyway

tehshadowninjar · Apr 08, 2008, 08:37 AM // 08:37

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Originally Posted by The Red Messenger

What about the rangers that use bows?

sometimes you gotta use pindown and still escape...

ranger already suffered enough nerfage with sundering/penetraging shot, power shot, and precision shot anyway

FYI, Escape isn't common on rangers who use only bows for their builds. I shall give you a ratio based on my experience of seeing how many rangers with bow ranger builds use Escape...

1:75

KKTHXBAI

Div · Apr 08, 2008, 08:40 AM // 08:40

Stop nerfing my PvE skills.

~ Dan ~ · Apr 08, 2008, 09:14 AM // 09:14

/signed, just so Divine's running build is ruined.

MithranArkanere · Apr 08, 2008, 10:38 AM // 10:38

It is an elite. It only affects attacks and can be removed.

You cannot come here and complain about a skill anytime you cannot kill someone in RA because you had a horrible build.

legion_rat · Apr 08, 2008, 11:54 AM // 11:54

/notsigned

To many ways to stop this other than NERF. Stupid PvP, "Lets screw up PvE even more because we are to lame to counter a build."

Escape (elite stance)
Full: For 1...7 seconds, you move 33% faster and have a 75% chance to block attacks.

Its a stance, end it, kill the R/D, have a nice day.

Good day sir.

~the rat~

BlackSephir · Apr 08, 2008, 12:12 PM // 12:12

Ends if you hit with scythe attack.
LOOLOL im so smort

Ctb · Apr 08, 2008, 12:26 PM // 12:26

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Wow how retarded.

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omg I got owned by R/Ds too - lets nerf em

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Stop nerfing my PvE skills.

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You cannot come here and complain about a skill anytime you cannot kill someone in RA because you had a horrible build.

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Stupid PvP, "Lets screw up PvE even more because we are to lame to counter a build."

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Ends if you hit with scythe attack.
LOOLOL im so smort

This is why I can't get my friends to play Guild Wars with me. It's a great game, but it has the most ridiculous group of people playing it I've ever seen in my entire life.

Seriously. Grow up.